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Plan Commission
Thursday, October 6 2005
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
LOCATION: at the Town Hall
Public Hearing

AGENDA

PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that the Plan Commission of the Town of Taycheedah will conduct a public hearing on Thursday, October 6th, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., at the Taycheedah Town Hall, W4295 Kiekhaefer Parkway, Fond du Lac, for the purpose of making a recommendation to the Town Board on the petition of Ronald Cunzenheim, REC Engineering, LLC, representing R.A.M. Investments, LLC, to rezone the following described property from Agricultural Transitional (A-T) to Business with public sewer (B-1):

A parcel of land located in the NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4, the NW 1/4 of the NE 1/4, the SW 1/4 of the NE 1/4 & the SE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 all of Section 31, T16N R18E; and the NW 1/4 of the NW 1/4 of Section 32, T16N R18E, Town of Taycheedah, Fond du Lac County.

Beginning at the NW 1/4 corner of the NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 of Section 31, and heading Easterly along the north line of said NE 1/4 a distance of 1280’ more or less to the NE corner of same NE 1/4 of Section 31, thence Easterly along the north line of the NW 1/4 of Section 32, 849.6’ more or less to a point on the westerly right-of-way of USH 151, then southwesterly along said westerly right-of-way, said right-of-way line being a curve to the right an arc distance of 589.5’ more or less, thence southwesterly along said westerly right-of-way line 393.4’ more or less, thence continuing southwesterly along said westerly right-of-way line 220.8’ more or less to a point on the northerly and westerly right-of-way line of Winnebago Drive, thence along said northerly and westerly right-of-way of Winnebago Drive, said right-of-way being a curve to the left an arc distance of 546.2’ more or less, thence southwesterly along the northerly and westerly right-of-way line of Winnebago Drive 1499.9’ more or less, thence southwesterly along the northerly and westerly right-of-way line of Winnebago Drive 193.4’ more or less, thence southwesterly along the northerly and westerly right-of-way line of Winnebago Drive 393.4’ more or less, thence northeasterly 193.4’ more or less, thence northeasterly 301’ more or less, thence northeasterly 489.7’ more or less, thence northeasterly 682.7’ more or less, thence easterly 299.6’ more or less to a point on the west line of the NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 of Section 31, thence northerly along said west line of the NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 685.9’ more or less to the place of beginning, said parcel of land contains 50.1 acres of land, more or less.

The property abuts USH 151 and Winnebago Drive.

PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that the Plan Commission of the Town of Taycheedah will also consider making a recommendation to the Town Board on the petition of Ronald Cunzenheim, REC Engineering, LLC, representing R.A.M. Investments, LLC, to rezone the following described property from Agricultural Transitional (A-T) to Residential with public sewer (R-1):

A parcel of land located in the NW 1/4 of the NE 1/4 & the SW 1/4 of the NE 1/4 of Section 31, T16N R18E, Town of Taycheedah, Fond du Lac County, Wisconsin.

Commencing at the NW 1/4 corner of the NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 of Section 31 and heading southerly along the west line of the NE 1/4 of the NE 1/4 of Section 31, 685.9’ more or less, thence westerly 299.6’ more or less, thence southwesterly 119.6’ more or less to the place of beginning, thence northwesterly 250’ more or less to a point on the easterly right-of-way of Sandy Beach Road, thence southwesterly along said easterly right-of-way line a distance of 652.5’ more or less, thence southwesterly along said easterly right-of-way line a distance of 1192.4’ more or less to a point of the northerly right-of-way line of Winnebago Drive, thence northeasterly along said northerly right-of-way line, said right-of-way line being a curve to the right an arc distance of 152.4’ more or less, thence northeasterly along said northerly right-of-way line 145.2’ more or less, thence northeasterly along said northerly right-of-way line 100.8’ more or less, thence northeasterly 193.4’ more or less, thence northeasterly 301’ more or less, thence northeasterly 489.7’ more or less, thence northeasterly 563.1’ more or less to the place of beginning, said parcel of land contains 9.6 acres of land.

The parcel abuts Sandy Beach Road and Winnebago Drive.

PLEASE TAKE FURTHER NOTICE that the Town Board will meet on Monday, October 10th, 2005, at 7:30 p.m. at the Taycheedah Town Hall for the purpose of considering the recommendation of the Plan Commission and to act on the above petition.

Town Board members may be in attendance at the Plan Commission public hearing.

Dated this 16th day of September, 2005. Brenda A. Schneider, Town Clerk


MINUTES

The Town of Taycheedah Plan Commission conducted a public hearing on Thursday, October 6th, 2005, at 7:00 p.m., at the Taycheedah Town Hall, for the purpose of making a recommendation to the Town Board on behalf of R.A.M. Investments, LLC’s request to rezone 50.1 acres from Agricultural Transitional (A-T) to Business with public sewer (B-1) and 9.6 acres from Agricultural Transitional (A-T) to Residential with public sewer (R-1). The property abuts Hwy. 151, Winnebago Drive and Sandy Beach Road. Members present were Chairman John Wagner, Joe Thome, Bud Sabel, Joan Simon, Leon Schneider, Bill Spieker and Secretary Brenda Schneider. Mike Wirtz was absent.
The Chairman called the public hearing to order at 7:02 p.m.
Brent Schumacher, one of three partners, representing R.A.M. Investments, LLC, addressed the Plan Commission. Mr. Schumacher presented the following overview of the project:
• R.A.M. has an approved offer to purchase the land contingent upon the zoning changes.
• The R-1 area is planned to be 250 ft. deep and 75 ft. wide running parallel to Sandy Beach Road.
• R.A.M. intends to petition Fond du Lac County Shoreland Zoning for a variance to establish the outlots at 60 feet wide in order to be consistent with the existing lake-side lots.
• The east side of the R-1 area will be bermed and have plantings to create a barrier between the R-1 and B-1 areas.
• The R-1 area will be used as outlots for detached garages only.
• R.A.M. has no immediate plans for the B-1 area.
• Kevin Twohig and Michael Korb are the other partners.
• The Dept. of Transportation plans to alter the intersection of Winnebago Drive and Sandy Beach Road to create a 90* intersection. Jeff Volz, DOT, has informed the partners that they won’t be able to do anything with the pie-shaped area at the intersection.
• There are no plans to access the business area via Sandy Beach Road. The DOT will determine the access location.
• They do not intend to develop an industrial park; only retail and light industrial.
• Two of the partners live on Sandy Beach Road. They are concerned about controlling the development of the property for the benefit of the neighbors.

Kevin Twohig, a partner, made the following comments:
• Mr. Grebe saw the investment potential of the property.
• He and his partners had heard some rumors about the development of the property.
• The three partners decided to pursue purchasing the property in order to protect the area and the neighbors.
• They are concerned about everyone’s best interest.

Public comments and questions were as follows:
• Sandy Beach Road is narrow. There is no ditch on one side. Additional traffic would be hazardous.
• An attendee was upset with the proposal. He made the following comments:
o He disagrees with the rezoning.
o He’s aggravated with ideas not being followed through.
o Peebles Plaza is almost empty.
o The area will be built-up and then the City will annex it.
o He bought his property 17 years ago for the country feel.
o He’s tired of the country becoming a city.
o St. Peter could use a gas station.
o All everybody thinks about is money.
o The land should be a park for the kids.
o After a tense debate with another attendee, the man left the meeting.
• Paul Lane, neighboring property owner, supports the proposal. It will give him an opportunity to purchase an outlot. The outlots will provide a buffer between the lake lots and the business area. He is concerned about the drainage. He would rather see it developed by people with a vested interest in the development than an out-of-town developer.
• Another individual was concerned about the City of Fond du Lac’s water project and annexation potential. The Town’s Intergovernmental Boundary Agreement was explained. The Grebe land in not annexable, per the agreement.
Jerry Guelig, Town Chairman, added the following comments:
• The current Intergovernmental Boundary Agreement expires in 10.5 years.
• The agreement establishes a city growth area. The Grebe property is not in the city growth area.
• Land owners in the city growth area would have to petition the city for annexation.
• He would like to see retail and light industry at the Grebe site.
• He is in favor of the development.
October 6th, 2005 Plan Commission Public Hearing 2.
RAM Investments, LLC rezone A-T to R-1 and A-T to B-1

• The Town Board has worked to try to keep the open concept in development. The minimum lot size in a sewered area was increased from 15,000 sq. ft. to 1/2 acre.

Plan Commission comment was as follows:
• A member questioned Town Chairman Jerry Guelig as to why the Plan Commission spends their time conducting a public hearing because the Town Chairman indicated to them how he will vote on the proposal.

Brent Schumacher’s project overview continued as follows:
• Ron Cunzenheim, REC Engineering, will develop a drainage plan for the project. The berm will direct drainage away from Sandy Beach Road. A retention pond is planned in the back area of the property. The Fond du Lac County Erosion Control and Stormwater Management Ordinance will stipulate the drainage plan.
• After hearing further comments regarding specific drainage patterns and the existing adverse impacts, Chairman Wagner informed the attendees that details of the drainage plan is not an issue currently under review and that the Town will review it at the Preliminary Plat stage.
• The partners plan to sell the outlots to Sandy Beach Road property owners only. They also plan to establish restrictive covenants on the outlots restricting private-party sales of the outlots to other Sandy Beach property owners.
• Brent commented that the State will control where, if any, access is allowed onto Winnebago Drive. Brent further commented that if the State won’t approve an access; they won’t purchase the property.

Additional public comments and questions:
• An attendee questioned the types of business that would be allowed. Approximately half of the permitted uses contained in the Zoning Ordinance were read aloud. There was a question regarding gas stations. Gas stations are classified as a conditional use. Bonnie Davies, owner of the Corner Pump Plus, commented on the investment she and her husband made in the Town of Taycheedah 2 1/2 years ago. Brent responded that they do not intend to build a gas station; however, a buyer could. Another attendee claimed that Mrs. Grebe was approached a couple of times by an oil company wanting to build a truck stop on the site.
• An attendee commented that the Town does not need another strip mall.
• A neighboring property owner is glad that they are proposing business development. It will protect property values. She added that it was inevitable that the bypass would bring development. She is also glad the investors are concerned about the impact to the area.
• Jim Bertram, Town Board Supervisor, commented that he attended a meeting recently that addressed local transportation. Studies have indicated that only about one-third of the vehicles will use the bypass; the remainder is still using Winnebago Drive.
• John Dobyns commented that he fought for the bypass when he was in the legislature. Fond du Lac was the only large city without a bypass. The real affect of the bypass won’t be felt until the Hwy. 45 connection is made. The State will not allow ingress and egress on the bypass.

Bill Spieker motioned to recommend the Town Board approve the rezone request submitted by R.A.M. Investments, LLC, for 50.1 acres from A-T to B-1 acres and for 9.6 acres from A-T to R-1 as requested, seconded by Leon Schneider. Motion carried (5-1-1 absent). Nay-Joan Simon.
Dave Huck voiced concern about glare from lights; they should be shielded.
Member Joe Thome commented that he knew this would happen eventually. He asked that the partners do it right and make drainage a priority concern.
Joe Thome motioned to adjourn at 8:04 p.m., seconded by Bud Sabel. Motion carried (6-0-1 absent).



Attest____________________________________
Brenda A. Schneider
Plan Commission Secretary








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